Pros: Not much. newer version of driver available on vendors website.
Cons: for Microsoft Flight Simulator X, The stick calibration does not work correctly with the given software guidance from both vendors.
Pros: Device works as advertised.
Cons: I still suck at flying in battlefield 3.
Pros: I grew up in the 90s, when games were released on floppy disks and when creativity was king; when fancy graphics were impossible with the available technology and so real thought and effort had to be put in to make a game successful.
I remember playing Star Wars: Tie Fighter with an old five-button Gravis Gamepad Joystick that attached via a Gameport. I would play that game for hours upon hours, and it was always awesome.
Well, now I'm twenty-five, and through the joys of Web-surfing, I've managed to get Tie Fighter running on Windows 7 x64, and I tried playing with a controller-style pad. Suffice to say, it was impossible.
But the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro has allowed me to recapture the joys and the thrills of my favourite space combat sim, and with the click of the trigger, I'm eight years old again, when Star Wars was cool and Vader wasn't a whiny brat with mommy issues.
The rest of the review must be relegated to my OTHER THOUGHTS...
Cons: Cons? On this thing? Well...
Honestly, the throttle lever is pretty awkwardly placed, as are buttons 7-12, though they aren't as bad. I would have preferred more buttons on the stick itself as opposed to on the base, but that's personal preference, which isn't worth taking an egg off.
The base for this thing is MASSIVE. I mean, seriously HUGE. Something like 9x9 inches. Some of us with busy desktops don't have the real estate to manage that!
I'm ambidextrous, but lefties are out of luck when it comes to this joystick. There is no way to convert from Right- to Left-orientation.
Overall Review: The two triggers, four buttons, and the directional hat on the joystick itself are well placed, easy and intuitive to manipulate, and feel solid without being sticky or stiff. There is an extended moulded plastic rest at the base of the stick itself, which is very comfortable (but which admittedly is probably of limited usefulness for anyone without very large hands like myself). The stick spring is smooth and the tension is even no matter what direction you move it in nor how far you do. The throttle lever is extremely accurate and smooth, and were it not for the slightly awkward placement, would have gained my wholehearted approval.
As for buttons 7-12, they are laid out in a 2x3 pattern. With the massive base, wouldn't it have been better (not to mention more comfortable) to lay them out as 3x2? ie, as:
7 8 9
10 11 12
The trigger is extra-large and can easily accommodate both the index and middle finger, though for what purpo
Pros: I've had this same stick for more than 4 years now and aside from some dust it's still like new. I have not experienced what some others are saying about a short durability span, so as long as you're not beating it against the wall, getting food all over it, or dropping it consistently it should last a long time.
It has plenty of buttons for your programming preferences. It's also very easy to program/assign buttons (in MSFS at least).
The rotational axis is quite satisfactory for rudder/steering control if you don't or can't use pedals.
Overall it has a lot of features for a low-mid range stick.
Cons: Being a hardcore flight simmer, I find the onboard throttle lever to be poorly designed at best. It's very small, has a very limited range, no dual/multi, no reverse, no detents, and just doesn't meet my needs for throttle/acceleration control in MSFS.
I have also experienced to some extent what others have mentioned about axis stability and calibration being a tad jumpy. It is not enough to irritate me, but I can see how it might be obnoxious for other types of games. The extent of it may also depend on what type of computer and OS you're running it on.
Overall Review: For the price this thing goes for, it's well worth the time. It's a relatively cheap stick with med-high quality features, if you can tolerate a few minor issues.
Pros: Amazing stick with excellent tri-axis response. Can set aileron, elevator, rudder trims... radio PTT, camera view, flaps, VORs all on the stick itself, in addition to the pitch, yaw, and roll capabilities.
Cons: I haven't found any.
Overall Review: I really don't know how hard these people are on their joysticks, but I have had this one for over 2 years and it is still functioning perfectly! I can only assume that those who are complaining about calibration issues are cranking on the stick, thereby setting off the center 'deadzone'. I guarantee that if you fly a real plane that way, you'll die.
Pros: I've had mine for several years now, used in X-Plane, Flight Simulator, and Battlefield 2 for aircraft and it's always worked fine. I was a little surprised to see they still sell them, but fact is - mine works so well that if I needed another one, I'd probably get this very same unit!
Cons: The throttle feels a little cheap, but look at the price - you're not dropping a hundred+ on one of those high-end units here or anything.
Overall Review: More than worth the money
Pros: These "pros" reference a personal situation: I had a Logitech Wingman for some ten years, used for my "fright stimulator" softwares. Finally, the throttle-control was broken.
I checked the software version on the 3D Extreme Pro disc: Version 5.10. Checked the installation under Windows 7 for the current Wingman: Version 5.10.
Unplugged the Wingman; shut down the computer; connected the Extreme 3D Pro and booted. The new J-stick was installed without mishap. Everything on the "test" tab shows it working just fine, and no need to calibrate anything in X-Plane-9. I only had to re-program two buttons.
And . . . A-a-a-nnnd! The Extreme 3D Pro has about five additional buttons to those of the Wingman -- all programmable for my fright stimulators. . .
Cons: Haven't had it long enough to see if it craps out in less than a year -- according to some disgruntled reviewers here.
Overall Review: Seems responsive -- I can't find any "dead spots." Just as precise as the Wingman -- actually, more so. I see in my product searches that there are various two-handed game controllers available -- some wireless. This joystick serves my needs. For the price, I have no misgivings.
Pros: Bang for buck, this stick works for what I intended to use it for. I'm not much in the lines of flight sims in particular, but i intended to use this with Arma 2, Planetside 2, HAWX, and Mech Warrior Online. So far, no complaints with Arma 2 or Planetside 2, and HAWX everything is smooth and accurate. Makes flying Heli's and Reavers a cinch. The built-in throttle and rudder were the selling point for me. Also has a lot of buttons. if you want full control in most games, and don't want to spend an arm and a leg, or are just a beginner to flight sticks like myself. go with this. You wont regret it.
Cons: There's a bit of a deadzone in the middle. I'm not sure if i can change that with the included software as I haven't looked that far into it. It's not that big of a concern, but it limits what you can do sometimes. I have a tough time keeping my reticle on target in Mech Warrior. I feel myself tugging the vertical a lot, almost like a ratcheting motion, just so i can get lined up for a shot that may or may not connect. I'll likely stick to M&K unless I decide to fine tune it (if possible).
Overall Review: The good far outweighs the bad in this situation. I'm not a casual gamer by any stretch, but I'm not a flight sim junkie. This stick fit my needs.. well... wants. It's great. I haven't tried it on BF games yet, but I have a lot of games, so it's taking some time to get around to them all. I see a lot of people mentioning BF piloting, so I'll put it this way, with Arma 2's gigantic control scheme, and its less than forgiving learning curve, one should have no problem on the BF series with this stick.